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August 28, 2020

Jamie Aten on Covid19 and, storms and resilience | Len Sweet on Rings of Fire: Walking in Faith through a volcanic future

Praying for those affected by Hurricane Laura, the fires in California, the derecho in Iowa, riots in cities across the country and the COVID19 pandemic, HDI’s director Jamie Aten joins us to talk about disaster – how to survive it and serve in it.  Resources discussed can be found at

In the second half, Carmen welcomes Leonard Sweet for a conversation about his latest book, Rings of Fire: Walking in Faith through a volcanic future.  Len and Carmen talk as old friends who have never met. More at

Both conversations highlight the reality that plans no longer work and we must learn to live in a state of preparedness. Christians are called to follow where Jesus leads – which is into the chaos and storms and forsaken places. We are the first responders running toward the future – fiery as it may be – because we represent a King and Kingdom that are an all-consuming fire (Hebrews 12:29).

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